A med & grad student who used to work the line in LA, NYC, SF and Napa talking about the science of cooking and cooking with science. Harold McGee's On Food And Cooking - The Science and Lore of the Kitchen never satisfied my kitchen curiosity and more than one Chef grew exasperated with my asking "Why?" I'll try to stay on topic, but you may see a kvetch or two about the school & hospital.
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I have quite a few friends graduating this Winter. Some in teaching credential programs. Some in undergrad. Some from Grad School. And hey, that's awesome. I'm looking forward to quite a few parties this Winter.
And some people I know are graduated from Chiropractic school. And have started to call themselves "Doctor." All three people I know who went to Chiropractic did not make it into a med school. They weren't quite competitive with their grades. And one scored less than 20 on the MCAT, out of a possible 45. But now she gets to stick "Dr." in front of her name.
I am just so , so mad right now. So mad. I want to bang my head against a wall now.
Or maybe just hit things with a billy club.
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I have an acquaintance who studied to be a Chiropractor and goes by doctor. It's disgusting, but I hope everyone realizes there's a massive asterisk next to the title. I don't even like it when people call me Dr.
Perhaps you could just use "air quotes" every time you address them? It's crazy, right? These people are a freaken' menace to health and well-being everywhere. Which is ironic, because they can't often make claims to address anything more specific than 'health and well-being'...
They gots a PhD in crackology. My thought is that they are on par with maybe a physical therapist with some training in hokus pokus. Or is that not fair to PTs?
I think some of them are on par with a PT. But the really crazy ones, like my friend who has taken to claiming a full spinal alignment can help alleviate everything from gout to cancer to AIDS, are just...crazy. There wasn't enough scotch at that party.
You have to troll them though. It just wouldn't be right not to.
Well I have read quite a bit from Mr. Genomic Repairman, Tidlewave whatever, and Brian Krueger in the insanely immature Burzynski thread. Since that was closed out I found a path of least resistance to make contact! :)
I just want to say that I am not here to try and suggest that the Burzynski method works. I am here to enlighten a bunch of doctors as to have a discussion without resorting to logical fallacies while presenting an argument. I don't have time to go over all the different fallacies you three engaged in on that thread, but for a bunch of doctors I would think that you would know better - ?? Maybe not. At any rate, unless you want to remain ignorant on how to present an argument w/o resorting to name-calling (ad hominem), and other assorted argumentative fallacies, here's a link ...
I would think doctors wouldn't be opposed to a little light reading. Especially to enhance their understanding of any subject. I guess I have this romantic notion of scientists being eternally curious and constantly wanting to increase their base of knowledge.
To be honest I would be embarrassed to call myself a scientist, and to also argue with as many fallacies as you three do. I'm embarrassed for you. Regardless of the fact that you three obviously never studied any type of philosophy it would also seem that you left common manners behind once you received your degree.
Speaking of that, shouldn't scientists be open minded about something unproven either pro or con? You clearly passed judgment on Burzynski before weighing in all the evidence, or even watching the documentary. Once again I am not here as an advocate for the "Burzynski method" I simply think keeping an open mind is more aligned with the scientific method than having a closed one.
It's not that surprising to me honestly. It seems the longer a person spends in an academic environment the less likely they will allow, or even entertain, any new ideas of any type into their closed mind. If that's not what that individual was taught in school then it must be completely false. It's reeks of arrogance and sadly ignorance.
It's scary when you find out how little modern medicine really understands the inner workings of the human body especially in proportion to how they assert their correctness. Just as with Burzynski I take what medical professionals say with a grain of salt. I do favor modern medicine but I know unorthodox treatments can work as well (e.g. Manuka honey for stomach ulcers - proven with the scientific method).
If it is essentially harmless then there is no reason to oppose an alternate therapy so vehemently unless you have disdain for those who challenge you authority as a doctor. Seems like a confidence issue, and there is good reason to be worried! MD's suggest visiting a doctor who has been out of school for at least 10 years so they have experience, but are not too far out of school because the information those doctors were taught is now out of date. New doctors have the latest information- relative term - that is still perpetually changing. It's hard to be the authority on a subject when the material is always changing and you haven't kept up in decades.
Now I would like to address your argumentative fallacy in stigmatizing anyone who does not feel that the FDA has anything but the best of interest toward the American populous as a "conspiracy theorist". Here's a story and at the end you can call me whatever type of UFO this or that conspiracy theorist you want to. Are you familiar with GMO crops? The biotech industry? You should be considering how much you seem to dislike the idea of anything being allowed for public consumption that hasn't passed an intense long-term FDA testing process. Well GMOs from soy, cotton, canola, and corn have been implemented without any long-term testing of the effects on humans or any other living organisms.
Would you call me a conspiracy theorist if I told you that the USDA and the FDA are both in the pocket of these biotech corporations? Does that sound like a conspiracy theory to you worthy of me putting on a tin foil hat? If so you should do some research on who represents us in both the USDA and the FDA. Correlate those people with what positions they previously held in other private sector jobs. It is a logical fallacy to ask me to prove a negative. I have done the research and I know who is where and where they used to work. Dig for yourself like I did.
It's easy to name-call, and stigmatize people when an idea sounds foreign, but you should follow your own advice and do some research before you formulate an ill-informed opinion and begin name-calling. Just to save you some time the USDA is filled to the brim with cherry picked ex-biotech (e.g. Monsanto) administrative heads. Now to call people crazy that think the same thing is happening with the FDA and pharmaceutical companies is naive.
To come back to Burzynski let me just say this. If you were in a room tied to a chair and there was a guy who was about to start playing Russian Roulette with your face, but gives you the option of which gun he uses, would you choose the gun you know for certain had one bullet in it, or - if given a choice - would you pick the mystery gun that might be unloaded? At that point what does it matter? Even if the other gun has a bullet in it your odds are just as good as they are with the first gun.
That’s exactly what cancer patients feel like, and you three should feel ashamed for your behavior in that maturity deprived Burzynski thread. Considering all modern medicine can offer to many cancer patients is palliative treatment, why not try? What’s to lose? You’re self-appointed sense of authority on the subject - ? Fuck that and fuck you I’ll take the mystery gun.
In all your limited knowledge of the inner workings of the human body you still assert that you know everything. Pretty scary overall. Next you'll break out some leeches and tell me that I need to be bled. That was modern medicine for a time as well. Smoking is good for you, right doctors? How often has the medical community been behind something only to realize later it’s awful for you? How many deaths are attributed annually to prescribed drugs?
See why I take what both sides say with a grain of salt? The confidence the medical community has in what they think they know is grossly exaggerated by their enormous egos. You fuckers are straight deadly! I do understand you may not even be an MD, but rather some clinical lab technician or something along those lines.
Final thought ... taking any medical advice - especially involving cancer - from a person who has a cigarette in shoved in their mouth (Tidlewave's avatar) is completely absurd ... only in America. Should I see a grotesquely obese doctor for a nutrition plan as well?
Now if you want to send me a bunch of hate, as I am sure you do, be my guest. Flame away you flamers! Attacking my person affects me in no way what so ever. Honestly after the way you three held yourselves in the Burzynski thread I completely expect it. Won't chaff me at all. It will just prove some or all of my points. See how the game is played?