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Posted by: Mr. Gunn
Posted on: Thu, Oct 07, 2010, 12:26 pm CDT

Thanks Biochembelle @ Dr. Zeek!  Brian's right that older versions of Mendeley on non-Windows platforms occasionally had issues, but those are relatively old and resolved.  I'd love to hear what people think about the new release that just came out today. http://mendeley.com/get-mendeley (pops)

Posted by: biochem belle
Posted on: Thu, Oct 07, 2010, 8:02 am CDT

iPapers (another free one for Mac) is like Papers, in that you have to name pdfs by PMID for the program to pull in the information. I personally find that freakin' annoying and time-consuming.

Posted by: Genomic Repairman
Posted on: Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 10:23 pm CDT

I'm glad they finally got in the game with that, I've been using Papers for the past two years because of that.  Might be time to bring all my stuff onto EndNote then.

Posted by: Thomas Joseph
Posted on: Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 10:14 pm CDT

Either X3 or X4. I think it might be X3, and X4 has a lot more PDF features* (according to their website). It looks pretty darn nifty. I'll see if I can score myself an upgrade and check it out.

*According to EndNote you can drag a PDF or a folder of PDFs and EndNote will extract all the bibliographic data from the file for you (for most PDFs ... probably only ones with searchable text).

Posted by: Genomic Repairman
Posted on: Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 7:16 pm CDT

TJ, are you running X4

Posted by: Nikkilina
Posted on: Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 7:13 pm CDT

@TJ What?? That's fantastic. I'm going to have to find myself an upgrade!

Posted by: Thomas Joseph
Posted on: Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 4:39 pm CDT

Nikkilina, what version of EndNote are you using? In the latest version you can open up your EndNote library and drag the PDF icon of interest over to the publication of interest and it's inserted. You don't even have to open up the EndNote record you want to insert the PDF into. Viola!

Posted by: Genomic Repairman
Posted on: Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 4:25 pm CDT

With papers I just save my pdf's with the PMID and it usually matches them automatically with abstract and keywords, a few are stubborn but it will import them and you can match them later if you are on a tear.

Posted by: Dr. Zeek
Posted on: Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 3:11 pm CDT

I LOVE Mendeley as well!  Esp when I want to read references at home on the laptop-- I can synch the laptop and the desktop at work and voila! There they are.  The only issue I have with Mendeley right now is when trying to insert/cite in Word- you can't change the bibliography (i.e. if you wanted reference 1 to have a, b., and c.), and it did crash my document once while I was trying to figure out how to edit things in the biblio.  But since I am a masochist and like doing my references by hand anyways, Mendeley is awesome.  The highlight/note feature and serach functions are fantabulous!

Posted by: Nikkilina
Posted on: Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 2:07 pm CDT

I use Endnote too, but I really hate having to link all my pdf files in manually. If I'm going on a reading binge it can take hours just to get that part done.

Posted by: Thomas Joseph
Posted on: Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 11:26 am CDT

I use EndNote and Adobe Acrobat for PDF management.

EndNote keeps track of all of my references. I download PDFs from the internet and then can drag-n-drop them into the specific EndNote entry for that publication (helps cut down on the drag of manual entry). I use Adobe Acrobat to keep track of all of my comments, highlight sections, etc etc. Between those two programs, I'm steadily moving to an electronic office.

I use SCOPUS to download my PDFs, and SCOPUS will rename the PDFs for me if I choose to download them through their own interface.

Posted by: biochem belle
Posted on: Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 11:09 am CDT

I've never had the issue with database crashes. I used to use Endnote, but it's a PITA (or used to be) because you have to manually link each file and it would freeze up a lot. Re: mendeley database, you can also sync it to your online account. For bibliographies in papers/grants, I still use endnote (you can export refs from mendely in format that can be imported to other ref managers). But mendeley is my go-to for keeping my pdfs in order. Another neat feature is you can have mendeley rename your pdfs something sensible (e.g. year-author). Plus the PDF reader in mendeley, while simple, is pretty good - can highlight and add notes in PDF, in addition to notes in Mendeley entry.

Posted by: Genomic Repairman
Posted on: Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 11:07 am CDT

I and if memory serves me correct maybe Geeka run a hybrid mix of EndNote and Papers.  I generally keep references in EndNote and my PDFs and notes for the articles in Papers so that I can sync them with my iPod Touch and I can navigate papers much more quickly than EndNote to get to my journal articles.

Posted by: Brian Krueger, PhD
Posted on: Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 11:04 am CDT

I used to use EndNote.  I've heard a lot of people who have tried Mendeley though.  I hear it's getting better, but it was previously prone to database destroying crashes.  You can take a look at Paulo Nuin's @nuin on twitter blog or ask Jason Corneveaux @caddymob on twitter about their experiences with it.  Apparently they have a newer stable version out or coming out soon!

Posted by: biochem belle
Posted on: Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 10:54 am CDT

I'm trying to use digital more these days. I really love Mendeley for this (in fact, I've been meaning to write a blog post about it). You register for a free account online and download a desktop client. You can import refs from pubmed or many journal sites through the web client and widget. On the desktop version, you can load PDFs directly into Mendeley. The PDFs don't need specific file names (e.g. PMID in iPapers), and it does a decent job of parsing info from the files. It also picks out ones that don't look quite right or have missing info so you can review and update as needed.

Sometimes hard copies are nice to have around, too. In grad school during a forced massive lit review, I organized all the papers in 3-ring binders by subject/principle, then by year. I also kept a notepad where I jotted down citation and the major finding(s) of the paper so I'd know which one to reference. For me, just doing file folders is not very useful.

Posted by: Nikkilina
Posted on: Thu, Oct 07, 2010, 12:26 pm CDT

I was cleaning the stacks of papers off of my desk yesterday, and as I was sorting through the piles and putting them where they belong, I started wondering how everyone else handles references. Do you still print out hard copies or are you all digital? I keep both hard and electronic copies, but they are filed differently. If anyone has any good organizing tips, I'd love to hear them!

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