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After a frustrating year on the tenure-track job hunt, my eyes are still on the prize, and I've learned that sheer will might be the most important quality required for this career track.

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Wednesday, October 20, 2010

So I finally have it - the much-anticipated score on my K grant - and I have no idea what to think. It's a 31 - not a great score, but certainly fundable some years at certain institutes. Unfortunately, last year's payline for this specific grant mechanism at my particular institute was a 26, so I'm not holding my breath. The council meeting, where decisions are made, doesn't take place until I'm left with the wait-and-see plan for now.

My current predicament - I have several job applications due before the council meeting, a couple of which require some sort of funding for consideration. Should I include this score in the cover letters for these job applications? I don't have a good feel for how impressive/pathetic this will look, but I don't want to pass up including a potential "positive" in my applications. It's a bitch to get noticed by search committees these days. I'm waiting to hear back from the boss man on his opinion, but I certainly would appreciate the thoughts of others out there as well...

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I'd get in touch with your PO immediately. He/she can give you a better sense of what the vibe was about your proposal during study session, and when you get your Summary Statement, you may be able to write a response that will help put you over the funding line.

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I second Dr. Becca-you should call your PO right now. But, for the job applications, I would say that you should definately include your score. Perhaps not in the cover letter, unless your PO indicates that you have a non-zero chance of funding. Then you might have a sentence about your "K99/R00 application, which recieved a favorable score...". Otherwise, have it on your CV. Even if it isn't funded, I know that there are search committees that will look favorably on the fact that you wrote something that could get a 31.

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Heard back from my PO, and he doesn't think that it will get funded based on last year's paylines. But he also said there's no way to know for sure until they have a budget and aren't on CR. Dontcha just love waiting on the government to do its job?

I probably won't try to get any more info from the PO until I have my summary statement in hand in a few weeks - he seemed very big on having that in front of him when chatting a few months ago about my first app.

After talking to the boss man and reading comments, I'm going to include the score in my CV for theses apps. I might also mention it in the cover letter for the jobs that specifically requested for funding, at least those familiar with the K mechanism I applied under...just need to figure out the right wording. Can't hurt, right?

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I would not put the score, just mention that you submitted the grant and received a "competitive" score.


Dr. O
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I like how that sounds, Namnezia...I can still say that even if it's not likely "fundable"?

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Sure, as long as there's a chance, it's competitive, no?

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No PO is going to say anything definitive one way or the other about funding until after the check is in the mail. It is the NIH way. It is totally fair to say "competitive". If someone wants to know more they will ask for the score.

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Makes sense...just wanted to make sure I didn't "oversell". Thanks guys!

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Sleepless night because of back pain, so I was up working on the job apps...DM has a a different view from using the "competitive" wording that I'm thinking of...


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Gotta agree with DM ... list the score (and last year's payline) ... makes sure it's known as probably funded.



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