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I have to stop working to address this very important issue. This isn't the first time I've seen what appears to be people of intelligence promoting the hate and persecution of another religion. And then more questionably intelligent people jump on the bigot bandwagon and fuel the messages of hate and intolerance to others.

What is going on here? Have people lost their minds?

This is no different than hating people for their skin color, sexual orientation, or gender. It's all prejudice. Don't think for one second that the same person who hates another religious group doesn't have the same bias against other groups that are different from themselves.  A person who has the audacity to, in public, make themselves feel superior by attempting to make others feel inferior doesn't limit this to only one particular race or creed. It is part of one's beingness.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, well I'm not going to direct you to the blog where a certain person asked their "followers" to make a rude tweet about a particular religion today.

As scientists, we have to be open-minded. That doesn't mean we agree with what other people think or believe and we don't have to even listen. I don't pay any attention to my friends' love for the flying spaghetti monster. I am sure it makes them feel good but I have other things to focus on. I don't put them down for it. I do enjoy reading about and understanding the religions of the far east and India and have friends who are Buddhists and Taoists and I respect their path.

Scientific discovery requires an open mind, receptive to any and all possibilities being true. Then through experimentation can we figure out the process. This is also a good philosophy for life.

 

 

 

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Thomas Joseph
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Why was I not surprised that I knew exactly who you were talking about?

His blog is worthless, and to think it's often rated as one of the top science blogs. Obviously the people who give those awards don't read his drivel.


Evie
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It is disturbing when the so called 'smart' ones are revealed as horribly not smart at all. It is most disturbing when this happens with scientists.


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Absolutely.

Make fun of anyone you want. I have nothing against venting frustration or anger.

But asking others to spread hate tweets is going too far.

If any other minority group were substituted in place of the religion that was the target, the blogger would have received a much bigger flogging by the community. Or maybe not.

And the other problem is scientists believing everything they read on someone's blog. Read the facts for yourself before passing judgement.


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Yea, it is sad to say but the scientific community is often so very sure of its knowledge and methods that it loses its critical thinking and ends up just as closed minded as the orthodox religious people are. Maybe that's a slight exaggeration, but there is way too much adherence to ideas and not nearly enough openness to reevaluating things. If your ideas are correct, it should be no problem to reassert them even in the presence of new info.

Not only is spreading hate going too far, it's totally not the right direction to go in. If you're really trying to open people's eyes to your truth, hatred is certainly not going to get you closer to that goal.

In fact, this is why I think people like Hitchens and Dawkins don't have the right approach. I think they are far too abrasive and are far too sure of their own ideas. They are just as unwilling to try and understand the believers point of views, as the believers they are trying to convert are themselves. It's a useless circle of closed minds. Getting nowhere. Causing more fuss and even less willingness to listen.

Taking your following however and instructing them, knowing all too well you have sheeple following you who WILL misread your intentions and will potentially take the hatred even further... that to me is not only irresponsible but down right wrong, despicable really. You know what you're doing. Then again, I am not surprised, that entire site is full of people who just love inciting crap. That's all they have to go on. No real content. No real value. The only thing I do not understand is how in the world he got so many followers in the first place? then again, using hyped up crap and causing drama does appeal to the lowest common denominator.


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Brilliant Evie.  Thank you for posting.


Thomas Joseph
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How did that blog(ger) get so many followers in the first place?  If I remember my history properly that blog started as an extension of the classroom, where the class would discuss actual science. In that capacity it generated a respectable following. Within a couple of years, it was picked up by the current benefactor and that's where it really "exploded". In sports we have a term called "believing your own press clippings" and I think that is where things are today. Most times you can disabuse people of those notions and get them back to reality. The problem as I see it though is that what peers are willing to correct him, that he'll listen to? He's been hoisted by his petard more than once, and he's claimed victim status and unleashed his sycophantic horde on his "attackers". He won't be corrected by the scientific community because he doesn't (or rarely) submit(s) anything to peer review. I think the thing is a lost cause, which is why I rarely, if ever, go there ... and I sure as heck don't post there.


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I think these "celebrity" science bloggers need to put their celebrity status into perspective.  You can throw around names like Dawkins, Erlich, Hawking and people know who you're talking about.  They know what these scientists do for a living, what they study.  You dump this guy's name at a party and everyone's like, "What? Who is that??"  And then you have to explain that he's some anti-religion zealot science blogger who rarely ever posts anything science related and is the embodiment of an internet troll but because a million people visit his blog every month he thinks he's the shit.  Then you see people's eyes roll, and they say, "A blogger? I see..."

Anyway, there are sheeple eveywhere, let's just be glad he's only an under the radar science blogger with no "real" reach.  Although, I'd probably rather see him with a show on Fox news than a true hate monger like Glen Beck.

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